Autism & Developmental

Child and Caregiver Perspectives on Conversation Club Therapy: A Case Study

Pham (2025) · Journal of Evaluation in Clinical Practice 2025
★ The Verdict

One family liked Conversation Club yet showed uneven gains, echoing other community programs where parent smiles outrun score-sheet jumps.

✓ Read this if BCBAs running social groups in parks, churches, or after-school clubs.
✗ Skip if Clinicians who need robust, clinic-controlled social-skills data.

01Research in Context

01

What this study did

Pham (2025) followed one child and one caregiver through a community Conversation Club.

The club met weekly to practice talking, listening, and taking turns.

The pair rated their own skills and satisfaction before and after the program.

02

What they found

Some skill ratings went up, others stayed flat.

The child and caregiver disagreed on what improved.

Both said they liked the club and would keep going.

03

How this fits with other research

Koegel et al. (2024) also tested a social package and saw clear gains for every teen.

Their study used a stronger design, so the mixed club results may reflect the looser setting.

Howells et al. (2020) ran a community football program and got the same pattern: parents saw fewer behavior problems, yet standard social scores did not budge.

The pattern repeats: community groups feel good, but paper-and-pencil gains are small or missing.

04

Why it matters

Conversation Club is cheap, friendly, and families like it.

Use it as a low-stress add-on, not your main social-skills weapon.

Track simple, visible targets such as equal talk time or on-topic comments.

Collect both child and parent views; they often diverge, and that is useful data.

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Add a five-minute talk-time tally during your next group and ask both child and parent if they feel the time was shared fairly.

02At a glance

Intervention
other
Design
case study
Sample size
1
Population
mixed clinical
Finding
mixed

03Original abstract

Conversation Club is a community‐based intervention developed to support social and conversation skills in both neurodiverse and neurotypical children who may need additional support in these areas. The purpose of this preliminary evaluation is to examine the efficacy of Conversation Club delivered in the local setting. This mixed‐methods case study involved a child‐caregiver dyad. Pre‐post intervention data were collected through interview and battery of tests assessing social skills (e.g., Social Skills Improvement System; Social Responsiveness Scale). Both the child and caregiver shared that they were satisfied with Conversation Club and felt that the child benefitted from the curriculum. Results also indicated that the child made a reliable change on both self‐ and caregiver‐measures of social and conversation skills, but results were mixed for behaviour indices. Interestingly, the child rated their social skills as average before and after intervention, compared to elevated social impairments perceived by the caregiver at both time points. An overall strength of this case study was to include the perspective of the child participant, in addition to the caregiver report, to evaluate the social validity and acceptance of the intervention for teaching conversation skills.

Journal of Evaluation in Clinical Practice, 2025 · doi:10.1111/jep.70337